2019-06-13 LDCG SC Meeting Agenda/Minutes - real

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Last updated: Jun 13, 2019

Meeting Date:  

Attendance

Committee Members 

Name

Present 

Asia TZ

Present 

US TZ


Alternate 

Present 

Asia TZ

Present 

US TZ

Elsie Wahlig, Linaro

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Andy Wafaa, ARM

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Tony Chen

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Kouichi Hirai, Fujitsu

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Takeharu Kato

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Kangkang Shen, Huawei

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Yujiaqiang

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Baozi Chen, Kylin

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Larry Wikelius, Marvell

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Zi Shen Lim

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Jon Masters, Red Hat

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Satoru Okamoto, Socionext

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Kiyoshi Owada

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Guests 

NamePresent Asia TZPresent US TZ
Mark Orvek, Linaro(error)(error)
Andrea Gallo, Linaro

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Francoise Ozog, Linaro

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Tom Gall, Linaro

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Vicky Janicki. Linaro(error)(error)
Graeme Gregory, Linaro (tick) (tick)

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Ganesh Raju, Linaro (tick) (tick)

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Victor Duan, Linaro(error)(error)
Don Harbin, Linaro(error)(error)

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Live meeting notes will be <<here>>    

Agenda

  • ILP32
  • AOB 

Minutes

Asia TZ Call

  • ILP32
    • ARM is ending its 2 year maintenance of this project and is requesting a opinion poll from members on further investment in engineering.
    • In staging in kernel but will be deleted without further development
    • has been relatively stable over the last year
    • OpenSUSE has a complete distro built against ILP32 that some members are using
    • Use cases are mainly legacy code that for some reasons isnt possible to port to arm64 (ie assumptions about 32bit points etc).

Socionext: has no interest ILP32

Fujitsu: Has no opinion on ILP32.

USA TZ Call

  • ILP32
    • Graeme summarised Asia TZ Call
    • Marvell requested information on current and expected resource, Andy thinks its 2 full time currently around RCX release cycles with gaps between and expected to need to continue at this level, he will confirm.
    • Andy is going to check if there are any development resources needed for new architecture enhancements.
    • Graeme pointed out to ever get upstream they are going to need some solid public users.
    • Jon asked is there perhaps some depts of ARM or other members relying on this that we currently do not know (Andy to check inside ARM).
    • Telco space is the current know user.
    • Jon says if this goes ahead it needs to be shared over members as everyone benefits.
    • Jon also thinks this is not likely to go upstream.
      • Graeme stated that if its not targeted at upstream that is dificult for Linaro as we are un upstream company.
  • AOB
    • Huawei situation, Jon made clear that RH cannot work on any project that may only benefit Huawei in long run, there must be other users, this affects ILP32 and CCIX
    • Jon asked about the effect on POR from current turmoil of Huawei situation (and other factors)
      • Graeme replied that with the new process we are almost ready to start planning the San Diego → Spring 2020 Connect cycle with hard planning beginning 6 weeks before Connect but soft planning can start now.
    • Jon asked for updated POR slides for current cycle
    • Jon pointed out he thinks we should concentrate on tasks with high interest and that have resources.

Marvell: has strong interest in ILP32

Redhat: has no interest in ILP32


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