2019-12-12 LDCG SC Meeting Agenda/Minutes

2019-12-12 LDCG SC Meeting Agenda/Minutes

Meeting Date:  

Attendance

Steering Committee Members 

Name

Present 

 

 

Alternate 

Present 

 

Name

Present 

 

 

Alternate 

Present 

 

Elsie Wahlig, Linaro

    

 

 

  

Andy Wafaa, ARM

   

 

Tony Chen

   

Takami Atsushi, Fujitsu 

   

 

Takeharu Kato

   

Li Wan, FutureWei

    

 

Kangkang Shen

     

Larry Wikelius, Marvell

   

 

Zi Shen Lim

   

Al Stone, Red Hat

   

 

 

  

Satoru Okamoto, Socionext

   

 

Kiyoshi Owada

    

 

 

 

 

Member Guests

Name

Present 

Name

Present 

Poonam Aggrwal, NXP

 

Thomas Parker, Arm

 

Peter Liu, FutureWei

 

David Lai, FutureWei

 

 

 

Meeting Logistics

Thursdays at 6am PST / 9am EST / 2pm UK / 11pm JST 

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Location

Local Time

Time Zone

UTC Offset

Location

Local Time

Time Zone

UTC Offset

San Jose (USA - California)

Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 6:00:00 am

PST

UTC-8 hours

Austin (USA - Texas)

Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 8:00:00 am

CST

UTC-6 hours

Boston (USA - Massachusetts)

Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 9:00:00 am

EST

UTC-5 hours

London (United Kingdom - England)

Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 2:00:00 pm

GMT

UTC

Paris (France - Île-de-France)

Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 3:00:00 pm

CET

UTC+1 hour

New Delhi (India - Delhi)

Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 7:30:00 pm

IST

UTC+5:30 hours

Beijing (China - Beijing Municipality)

Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 10:00:00 pm

CST

UTC+8 hours

Tokyo (Japan)

Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 11:00:00 pm

JST

UTC+9 hours

Corresponding UTC (GMT)

Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 14:00:00

Linaro

Name

Present 

Name

Present 

Mark Orvek, Linaro

 

Andrea Gallo, Linaro

 

Francoise Ozog, Linaro

 

Tom Gall, Linaro

 

Vicky Janicki. Linaro

 

Graeme Gregory, Linaro

  

Ganesh Raju, Linaro

 

Leif Lindholm, Linaro

 

Baptiste Gerondeau, Linaro

 

Kevin Zhao, Linaro

  

Paul Isaac's, Linaro

  

Victor Duan, Linaro

 

Don Harbin, Linaro

 

Randy Linnell, Linaro

 

   

Agenda

  • Previous meeting minutes:  2019-12-05 LDCG SC Meeting Agenda/Minutes

  • LBI Discussion

    • DCV / Oort:  FutureWei - Graeme Gregory

      • current description:  Developer Collaboration Vehicle

      • LBI link: 

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    • CNCF (JenkinsX, CDF):  FutureWei - @David Lai 

      • current description:  link to be added to PDF posted on LDCG-SC home page under proposals

      • LBI link: 

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    • ASECloud:  Futuerwei - @Peter Liu

      • current description:  link to be added to PDF posted on LDCG-SC home page under proposals

      • LBI link: 

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    • AI on Servers:  Linaro - Paul Isaac's

      • current description:  link to be added to PDF posted on LDCG-SC home page under proposals

      • LBI link: 

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    • SmartNICs:  Linaro/Arm - Graeme Gregory

      • current description:  to be added

      • LBI link: 

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    • OCI "HW Accelerator" Extensions:  Xilinx / Linaro -  Wesley Skeffington and Elsie Wahlig

      • current description:  to be added

      • LBI link: 

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    • Open Source Tools for Windows: Linaro - Elsie

      • current description:  to be added

      • LBI link: 

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    • Ceph Upstream CI on ARM64

      • current description:  to be added

      • LBI link: 

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  • AOB

Minutes

  • LBI-35 Ceph Upstream CI

    • Al Stone

      • Sees a great need for this in Ceph community as Ceph only officially release for platforms in CI.

      • Ceph CI resource intensive so machines would be allocated for this 100%, memory hog, >64G RAM + swap needed for build

      • Suggests utilizing cloud (Packet/AWS) would be better for this than COLO due to better resource scaling. 

      • x86 currently uses the cloud for this

      • Would we need 2 clusters (Debian/CentOS) although Ceph supports heterogeneous deployments.

      • COLO hosting is expensive compared to cloud.

    • Kevin Zhao

      • Cluster test is required for Ceph CI, this is 15-20 machines.

      • 3-5 days to run CI tests

      • Huawei have offered to Donate machines, and developer.

    • Graeme

      • 20 Machines will only leave 5U for infrastructure and be at least 8A over MAX current limit for COLO

  • LBI-28 OCI Accellerator Extensions

    • Al Stone

      • Does this overlap with SmartNIC (Graeme: no, as SmartNIC is about getting SmartNIC ecosystem basics booted, this is about accellerators which may be in SmartNICs but also may be in normal servers).

  • LBI-27 AI on Servers

    • Al Stone

      • Does this include tuning of libraries and tools (Paul: No this is using Libraries/tools already broguht up and tuned for ARM64)

      • Would it make sense for Linaro to distribute working software stacks (Graeme: This ties in with DCV)

  • LBI-30 ASECloud

    • Al Stone

      • Who will this target?

      • Does it include container building tools?

      • Benchmarks may be tricky due to licenses and other legal issues. (SPEC license called out)

    • Li Wan

      • Will loop back with Peter to get these answered (ACTION)

  • LBI-29 CDF

    • Kangkang

      • This is important as although LDCG has a lot of experience in low level it hasn't yet touched real data center software.

      • Waiting for feedback from Scott B (Services)

    • Al Stone

      • Make sure CI/CD tools work well on ARM64

      • good for other projects who can then leverage this work.

    • Larry W

      • Suggests partnering with packet for this rather than COLO (Kangkang we have already looked at AWS)

  • Scheduler

    • Al Stone

      • LBI was cancelled how do we track the work in core.

    • Kangkang

      • Missed meeting as it was held on thanksgiving, plans to contact Mike to see how to proceed.

    • GG/Elsie

      • Invite Vincent to next SC to update on progress/plans?

      • Exactly like the last server scheduler work carried out by vincent

      • Looking into how to track these core tasks interesting to LDCG inside our healthchecks

  • LBI Process

    • Larry

      • Query on the general process to be followed.

    • GG

      • Needs to have a good solid intro paragraph so TSC can select what to discuss quickly.

    • Kangkang

      • Needs to really be mostly complete as they do discuss down to low level.

    • GG

      • Is going to send out voting spreadhseet next week to prioritise 2-3 LBIs to fully complete, for presentation.

  • AOB

    • Elsie

      • Introduce Takami Atsushi Fujitsu SC Represetative.

 

Action Items

@Li Wan Check ASE Cloud questions with Peter //16-12-2019 
@Former user (Deleted) Issue voting spreadhset Dec 16, 2019 
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