2019-12-12 LDCG SC Meeting Agenda/Minutes

Meeting Date:  

Attendance

Steering Committee Members 

Name

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Alternate 

Present 


Elsie Wahlig, Linaro

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Andy Wafaa, ARM

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Tony Chen

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Takami Atsushi, Fujitsu 

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Takeharu Kato

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Li Wan, FutureWei

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Kangkang Shen

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Larry Wikelius, Marvell

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Zi Shen Lim

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Al Stone, Red Hat

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Satoru Okamoto, Socionext

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Kiyoshi Owada

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Member Guests

NamePresent 
Poonam Aggrwal, NXP(tick)   (error)
Thomas Parker, Arm

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Peter Liu, FutureWei

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David Lai, FutureWei

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LocationLocal TimeTime ZoneUTC Offset
San Jose (USA - California)Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 6:00:00 amPSTUTC-8 hours
Austin (USA - Texas)Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 8:00:00 amCSTUTC-6 hours
Boston (USA - Massachusetts)Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 9:00:00 amESTUTC-5 hours
London (United Kingdom - England)Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 2:00:00 pmGMTUTC
Paris (France - Île-de-France)Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 3:00:00 pmCETUTC+1 hour
New Delhi (India - Delhi)Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 7:30:00 pmISTUTC+5:30 hours
Beijing (China - Beijing Municipality)Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 10:00:00 pmCSTUTC+8 hours
Tokyo (Japan)Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 11:00:00 pmJSTUTC+9 hours
Corresponding UTC (GMT)Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 14:00:00
   

Agenda

  • Previous meeting minutes:  2019-12-05 LDCG SC Meeting Agenda/Minutes
  • LBI Discussion
    • DCV / Oort:  FutureWei - Graeme Gregory
      • current description:  Developer Collaboration Vehicle
      • LBI link: 
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    • CNCF (JenkinsX, CDF):  FutureWei - David Lai 
      • current description:  link to be added to PDF posted on LDCG-SC home page under proposals
      • LBI link:  Unable to locate Jira server for this macro. It may be due to Application Link configuration.  
    • ASECloud:  Futuerwei - Peter Liu
      • current description:  link to be added to PDF posted on LDCG-SC home page under proposals
      • LBI link:  Unable to locate Jira server for this macro. It may be due to Application Link configuration.  
    • AI on Servers:  Linaro - Paul Isaac's
      • current description:  link to be added to PDF posted on LDCG-SC home page under proposals
      • LBI link:  Unable to locate Jira server for this macro. It may be due to Application Link configuration.  
    • SmartNICs:  Linaro/Arm - Graeme Gregory
      • current description:  to be added
      • LBI link:  Unable to locate Jira server for this macro. It may be due to Application Link configuration.  
    • OCI "HW Accelerator" Extensions:  Xilinx / Linaro -  Wesley Skeffington and Elsie Wahlig
      • current description:  to be added
      • LBI link:  Unable to locate Jira server for this macro. It may be due to Application Link configuration.  
    • Open Source Tools for Windows: Linaro - Elsie
      • current description:  to be added
      • LBI link:  Unable to locate Jira server for this macro. It may be due to Application Link configuration.
    • Ceph Upstream CI on ARM64
      • current description:  to be added
      • LBI link:  Unable to locate Jira server for this macro. It may be due to Application Link configuration.
  • AOB

Minutes

  • LBI-35 Ceph Upstream CI
    • Al Stone
      • Sees a great need for this in Ceph community as Ceph only officially release for platforms in CI.
      • Ceph CI resource intensive so machines would be allocated for this 100%, memory hog, >64G RAM + swap needed for build
      • Suggests utilizing cloud (Packet/AWS) would be better for this than COLO due to better resource scaling. 
      • x86 currently uses the cloud for this
      • Would we need 2 clusters (Debian/CentOS) although Ceph supports heterogeneous deployments.
      • COLO hosting is expensive compared to cloud.
    • Kevin Zhao
      • Cluster test is required for Ceph CI, this is 15-20 machines.
      • 3-5 days to run CI tests
      • Huawei have offered to Donate machines, and developer.
    • Graeme
      • 20 Machines will only leave 5U for infrastructure and be at least 8A over MAX current limit for COLO
  • LBI-28 OCI Accellerator Extensions
    • Al Stone
      • Does this overlap with SmartNIC (Graeme: no, as SmartNIC is about getting SmartNIC ecosystem basics booted, this is about accellerators which may be in SmartNICs but also may be in normal servers).
  • LBI-27 AI on Servers
    • Al Stone
      • Does this include tuning of libraries and tools (Paul: No this is using Libraries/tools already broguht up and tuned for ARM64)
      • Would it make sense for Linaro to distribute working software stacks (Graeme: This ties in with DCV)
  • LBI-30 ASECloud
    • Al Stone
      • Who will this target?
      • Does it include container building tools?
      • Benchmarks may be tricky due to licenses and other legal issues. (SPEC license called out)
    • Li Wan
      • Will loop back with Peter to get these answered (ACTION)
  • LBI-29 CDF
    • Kangkang
      • This is important as although LDCG has a lot of experience in low level it hasn't yet touched real data center software.
      • Waiting for feedback from Scott B (Services)
    • Al Stone
      • Make sure CI/CD tools work well on ARM64
      • good for other projects who can then leverage this work.
    • Larry W
      • Suggests partnering with packet for this rather than COLO (Kangkang we have already looked at AWS)
  • Scheduler
    • Al Stone
      • LBI was cancelled how do we track the work in core.
    • Kangkang
      • Missed meeting as it was held on thanksgiving, plans to contact Mike to see how to proceed.
    • GG/Elsie
      • Invite Vincent to next SC to update on progress/plans?
      • Exactly like the last server scheduler work carried out by vincent
      • Looking into how to track these core tasks interesting to LDCG inside our healthchecks
  • LBI Process
    • Larry
      • Query on the general process to be followed.
    • GG
      • Needs to have a good solid intro paragraph so TSC can select what to discuss quickly.
    • Kangkang
      • Needs to really be mostly complete as they do discuss down to low level.
    • GG
      • Is going to send out voting spreadhseet next week to prioritise 2-3 LBIs to fully complete, for presentation.
  • AOB
    • Elsie
      • Introduce Takami Atsushi Fujitsu SC Represetative.


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