2019-12-12 LDCG SC Meeting Agenda/Minutes
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Steering Committee Members
Name | Present
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Elsie Wahlig, Linaro |
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Andy Wafaa, ARM |
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| Tony Chen |
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Takami Atsushi, Fujitsu |
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| Takeharu Kato |
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Li Wan, FutureWei |
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| Kangkang Shen |
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Larry Wikelius, Marvell |
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| Zi Shen Lim |
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Al Stone, Red Hat |
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Satoru Okamoto, Socionext |
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| Kiyoshi Owada |
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Member Guests
Name | Present |
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Poonam Aggrwal, NXP |
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Thomas Parker, Arm |
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Peter Liu, FutureWei |
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David Lai, FutureWei |
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San Jose (USA - California) | Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 6:00:00 am | UTC-8 hours | |
Austin (USA - Texas) | Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 8:00:00 am | UTC-6 hours | |
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Linaro
Name | Present |
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Mark Orvek, Linaro |
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Andrea Gallo, Linaro |
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Francoise Ozog, Linaro |
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Tom Gall, Linaro |
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Vicky Janicki. Linaro |
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Graeme Gregory, Linaro |
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Ganesh Raju, Linaro |
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Leif Lindholm, Linaro |
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Baptiste Gerondeau, Linaro |
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Kevin Zhao, Linaro |
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Paul Isaac's, Linaro |
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Victor Duan, Linaro |
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Don Harbin, Linaro |
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Randy Linnell, Linaro |
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Agenda
Previous meeting minutes: 2019-12-05 LDCG SC Meeting Agenda/Minutes
LBI Discussion
DCV / Oort: FutureWei - Graeme Gregory
current description: Developer Collaboration Vehicle
LBI link:
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CNCF (JenkinsX, CDF): FutureWei - @David Lai
current description: link to be added to PDF posted on LDCG-SC home page under proposals
LBI link:
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ASECloud: Futuerwei - @Peter Liu
current description: link to be added to PDF posted on LDCG-SC home page under proposals
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AI on Servers: Linaro - Paul Isaac's
current description: link to be added to PDF posted on LDCG-SC home page under proposals
LBI link:
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SmartNICs: Linaro/Arm - Graeme Gregory
current description: to be added
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OCI "HW Accelerator" Extensions: Xilinx / Linaro - Wesley Skeffington and Elsie Wahlig
current description: to be added
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Open Source Tools for Windows: Linaro - Elsie
current description: to be added
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Ceph Upstream CI on ARM64
current description: to be added
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AOB
Minutes
LBI-35 Ceph Upstream CI
Al Stone
Sees a great need for this in Ceph community as Ceph only officially release for platforms in CI.
Ceph CI resource intensive so machines would be allocated for this 100%, memory hog, >64G RAM + swap needed for build
Suggests utilizing cloud (Packet/AWS) would be better for this than COLO due to better resource scaling.
x86 currently uses the cloud for this
Would we need 2 clusters (Debian/CentOS) although Ceph supports heterogeneous deployments.
COLO hosting is expensive compared to cloud.
Kevin Zhao
Cluster test is required for Ceph CI, this is 15-20 machines.
3-5 days to run CI tests
Huawei have offered to Donate machines, and developer.
Graeme
20 Machines will only leave 5U for infrastructure and be at least 8A over MAX current limit for COLO
LBI-28 OCI Accellerator Extensions
Al Stone
Does this overlap with SmartNIC (Graeme: no, as SmartNIC is about getting SmartNIC ecosystem basics booted, this is about accellerators which may be in SmartNICs but also may be in normal servers).
LBI-27 AI on Servers
Al Stone
Does this include tuning of libraries and tools (Paul: No this is using Libraries/tools already broguht up and tuned for ARM64)
Would it make sense for Linaro to distribute working software stacks (Graeme: This ties in with DCV)
LBI-30 ASECloud
Al Stone
Who will this target?
Does it include container building tools?
Benchmarks may be tricky due to licenses and other legal issues. (SPEC license called out)
Li Wan
Will loop back with Peter to get these answered (ACTION)
LBI-29 CDF
Kangkang
This is important as although LDCG has a lot of experience in low level it hasn't yet touched real data center software.
Waiting for feedback from Scott B (Services)
Al Stone
Make sure CI/CD tools work well on ARM64
good for other projects who can then leverage this work.
Larry W
Suggests partnering with packet for this rather than COLO (Kangkang we have already looked at AWS)
Scheduler
Al Stone
LBI was cancelled how do we track the work in core.
Kangkang
Missed meeting as it was held on thanksgiving, plans to contact Mike to see how to proceed.
GG/Elsie
Invite Vincent to next SC to update on progress/plans?
Exactly like the last server scheduler work carried out by vincent
Looking into how to track these core tasks interesting to LDCG inside our healthchecks
LBI Process
Larry
Query on the general process to be followed.
GG
Needs to have a good solid intro paragraph so TSC can select what to discuss quickly.
Kangkang
Needs to really be mostly complete as they do discuss down to low level.
GG
Is going to send out voting spreadhseet next week to prioritise 2-3 LBIs to fully complete, for presentation.
AOB
Elsie
Introduce Takami Atsushi Fujitsu SC Represetative.
Action Items